Is it possible to tonify Blood and Yin using just acupuncture?

depending on how the blood / yin became deficient !

If the spleen is weak which leads to this insufficiency then by strengthening the Spleen to produce blood, Acupuncture could be effective !

But basically, using Dietary therapy and/or herbs would be more beneficial in most cases ?

Ryan Funk

- Someone who consumes their Yin with lifestyle would benefit from the relaxation of the Acu Tx, this would nourish their Yin in many ways indirectly.

- Acu Tx also courses the Qi and therefore digestion functions more optimally. Spleen produces Blood right?

- Acu Tx also quickens Blood that may be stagnant. The body will not build blood if it is static.

- I could go on, but I want to go play outside...

The polling question is simular of that of FOX news "Is it possible that a terror attack happens tomorrow at 7 pm?" Every thing is possible and I am sure that there are doctors out there that find that acupuncture effective for all conditions, but it is unlikely.
The correct question is "Is acupuncture effective in vacuity of Yin and Blood?"
Then the answer is "Not very". I agree with a previous doctor that it depends on a type of vacuity. It would be more effective if it is organ/system related, like in chronic disease anemia, sickle cell anemia, and some types of hemolytic anemia, but not in nutritional deficiencies.
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For some reason, many people think that you can not tonify Blood and Yin using acupuncture, and most people I talked about this with, think that "herbs do it better".

This of course depends on the situation, but yes- I know for a fact that there are cases that just acupuncture helped.
It helped getting the ball rolling, made a difference, and adding nutrition- simple instructions- made a big difference in the long run.

Is it bette than herbs? Are herbs better than acupucnture?
It's not better and it's not inferior to herbs. It's simply different.
Some people are just not up to taking herbs every day, several times a day. That's another thing we should keep in mind when trying to give a patient a formula.

I know with herbs dosage (including how long and often you take it) matters. What do you all think about acupuncture. I know many in the west treat only once per week. I use herbs and acupuncture so I am comfortable for coming once a week if also taking herbs. I would be doubtful acupuncture could tonify yin and blood on a once per week frequency. Anyone have several case studies they could share that demonstrates treatment once per week was effective at nourishing Yin and Blood? Personally, if they are not taking herbs i suggest minimum of 2-3 treatments in a week. Also, if they are doing diet therapy, then this is internal medicine just like herbs, and then the frequency of acupuncture can be less. But, the question was is acupuncture effective and not acupuncture and diet therapy to tonify Yin and Blood. So my question still is who can share with us a few well documented case studies on how many acupuncture treatments per week and for how long to see results to tonify Yin and Blood.

Lorne
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Whether the question is "Is it possible to tonify blood and yin using just acupuncture?" or
Arthur Gazaryants wrote:"Is acupuncture effective in vacuity of Yin and Blood?"
it can. Semantics don't matter here. It is exceptionally good. And faster than herbs. If you read George Soulie de Morant's "Chinese Acupuncture," you'll find that there are points that can, in fact, increase production of red blood cell, plasma, and other structures. Of course, this is done in conjunction with the root issue: if the person's underlying issue is endocrine, then Morant also has points for the parathyroid, thyroid, adrenals, etc. If you read his text, you will know that yin/blood/ying deficiency/vacuity can be revived with only acupuncture, as Morant did not use herbs.

Hello Fyip

you said that Acupuncture may actually work faster than Herbal treatment for Blood / yin Vacuity. What is the shortest amount of time that you have seen results?

thanks

Ryan Funk

Acupuncture regulates the bio-system.
It does not add anything to the system but it can and does help regulate the mechanisms of blood and yin production.
The system needs the raw ingredients for the mechanisms of blood/yin production and those ingredients come from outside the system.

As the saying goes, you can give a starving man a fish or you can teach him to fish. They are different approaches and they both have validity depending on how starving the person is. I suspect giving a Yin or Blood vacuous person the appropriate herbs is like giving someone a fish. Their body is hungry and it NEEDS fish right now. I suspect appropriately targeted acupuncture regulates things so the body more optimally generates its own Yin and Blood, more like teaching the patient's body to fish for itself. Of course, I am well aware that there are also herbs to get at the 'root' of why the body is yin or blood vacuous in the first place. So its complicated.

Daniel Schulman
Charlottetown, PEI, Canada